Talk Justice: Episode 107

Civil Legal Aid’s Strong Return on Investment
In April, LSC published a research brief, “The Economic Case for Civil Legal Aid,” which shows the results of a systematic review of 56 economic impact studies conducted between 2003 and 2023. The independent evaluations examined 39 different states. Every study found a positive return on investment (ROI) for civil legal aid spending, with an average return of $7 for every $1 invested in these legal services. Hear one compelling example from a medical-legal partnership between Amerihealth Caritas D.C. and Children’s Law Center.
Featured Guests

Holly Stevens
Holly Stevens, Ph.D., joined the Legal Services Corporation in 2021 to assist civil legal aid organizations in using data to improve their services. At LSC, she leads a team of curious and enthusiastic “data people” who comprise the Office of Data Governance and Analysis (ODGA). ODGA was formed in 2016 to help LSC and its grantees use data to inform program improvement, strategic decision-making, and outreach. The ODGA team loves accessible, actionable data and creating user-centered tools for the civil legal aid community...

Karen M. Dale
Karen M. Dale R.N., MSN is the Market President for AmeriHealth Caritas DC, a Medicaid managed care organization. Having held multiple positions of leadership over several decades, Dale has worked with a broad group of stakeholders to address policies and other key factors impacting the delivery of health care services. Dale’s vision for health equity is notably reflected in key programs addressing maternal health, housing, transportation, behavioral health, and food insecurity. She works tirelessly to inspire leaders to create a healthcare ecosystem that promotes wellness without barriers, holistic human- centered approaches, collaborative relationships with providers and community partners, and use alternative payment models to create scalable solutions with positive community, social, clinical and quality impact.
Host

Ron Flagg
Ronald S. Flagg was appointed President of the Legal Services Corporation effective February 20, 2020, and previously served as Vice President for Legal Affairs and General Counsel since 2013. He previously practiced commercial and administrative litigation at Sidley Austin LLP for 31 years, 27 years as a partner. He chaired the firm’s Committee on Pro Bono and Public Interest Law for more than a decade.